Yahweh obviously was not considered byJesus to be the Heavenly Father. It's not that difficult to see or understand. Highly intellectual and abstract/technical discussions of questions such as these are interesting, but I highly doubt that Jesus thought in such rarified terms and concepts. Bringing one's mind a bit closer to planet Earth is a good idea in understanding the thoughts of an ancient rabbi. The Gospel of John had a hard time being accepted as canonical and this is one of the many reasons.
Mistah MOJO
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You are from your father the devil!
by sinis inhas anyone stopped to think what jesus was really saying to the jews?
jesus also says that you have neither seen nor heard him.
well the ot speaks of how the jews on several occassions not only saw gods ass (backside) but also heard him speak.
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Do we need to experience the bad to know the good??
by lowden ininspired by a few posts from the 'suffering' thread, i pose the above question.. is it really necessary to experience or even know of evil deeds in order to appreciate good, benevolence, peace.. certain peoples and indigenous tribes have lived in peace and probably still do with little, if any, disturbance and malevolence within their communities.
they don't need evil to appreciate good, surely.. one current headline story over here in britain is of a 7yr old girl murdered, shot in the back by a drug dealer because she'd seen his face.
he's just got 40yrs in jail.
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Mistah MOJO
No. I don't need to read about or see children being kidnapped, beaten, tortured, raped, sodomized, stabbed, strangled, and dismembered in order to appreciate the good. I don't need millions of starving children to appreciate how well off I am. The fact that you ask this questions reveals you are thinking in highly abastract "clinical" terms and not in concrete terms. The question is easily answered by moving from the abstract to the concrete.
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Hello. My name is John Walsh
by Mistah MOJO ini am currently domiciled with my girlfriend whose family became jws too late for her to be sucked into the hole, and her younger sister who was sucked into the hole.
i was briefly involved.
for two years i studied but never was baptized.
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Mistah MOJO
Hello Brigid. My "girlfriend" and I are now officially engaged. We don't plan on a long engagement or a big wedding. We plan on driving to Arizona and being married beside the Grand Canyon. As for Linda, she's definitely the brains and beauty and I'm not quite sure what it is exactly that I bring to the table. To my delight, she loves me anyway. Her parents became Witnesses several months before she turned nineteen and she moved out as a result. During their indoctrination period with the Witnesses they had become quite obnoxious about "the Truth." I don't think her parents really expected Linda to simply depart. Yet she did, and we met at the local library. We were both looking for some good anti-JW material. So we sat down and compared notes and soon we were dating. At five feet ten she's an inch taller than I am and quite an athlete. The first time she decided to frighten a Witness, I was sending them on their way when Linda leapt out the door and began a full volume tirade about children who had died from being denied blood transfusions. She literally got right in their faces, perhaps an inch or two away, and was shouting full volume. One of them hurried away, but the older man in his mid forties was speechless and visibly frightened. He too then hurried away as Linda followed him to the sidewalk. The fellow didn't even go to the next house. He got in his car, when his friend was waiting, and drove away. She's done this several more times. Now that we've moved into our own home we've not yet been visited. I know we will though. I'll warm them up with a few lies about being a warlock and then Linda will leap out and cause them to shit their pants!
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Hello. My name is John Walsh
by Mistah MOJO ini am currently domiciled with my girlfriend whose family became jws too late for her to be sucked into the hole, and her younger sister who was sucked into the hole.
i was briefly involved.
for two years i studied but never was baptized.
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Mistah MOJO
Hello Brigid, James Woods ( know a real life James West), and Full of Doubt Now. Thank you for the friendly welcome. No, I'm not involved in Wicca but I have some good friends who are very happily involved. It's just nature worship as far as I can tell. They're very relaxed and pleasant people. Hi Karen 96. Hi Priest 73. I apologize I didn't get the joke. You certainly didn't offend me in the least. I felt sheepish for not having gottent the joke. Lady Liberty Serendip, and Searching 4 Truth, thank you for the welcome! A great weekend to each and every one of you.
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Antichrist
by tan ini watched a history channel show re: the antichrist.
very interesting with different perspectives for the books of daniel and revelations.
one thing that really got me thinking...the book of revelations--they state that it may symbolize things that were happening during that period of time...not things to come.
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Mistah MOJO
Hello Tan. Yes, I tried to watch a program that fits that description, but became very bored and took everyone for a drive instead. I don't believe in prophecy so yes, I am firmly convinced that Revelation is about the past. More interesting however is the fact that the Greek in which the book is wirtten is terrible Greek. I have read that it is utterly dissimilar to the Greek style in the gospel and letters ascribed to John. It's very badly written, utilizing very poor grammer and a much more limited vocabulary than the gospel of John. I have only read this, however. I don't read Greek so I cannot personally vouch for this.
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Hello. My name is John Walsh
by Mistah MOJO ini am currently domiciled with my girlfriend whose family became jws too late for her to be sucked into the hole, and her younger sister who was sucked into the hole.
i was briefly involved.
for two years i studied but never was baptized.
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Mistah MOJO
Hello. I don't watch much TV so I'm not familiar with my television alter ego. I do have an interest in science though, a laymans interest. It was a discussion of evolution that sparked my involvement with the Jehovah's Witnesses.
My girlfriends little sister isn't a Witness. She was merely forced to go to meetings most of her life. She lives with us even though she is twenty one because of some residual problems brought on my her long internment in the sect. On a conscious level she doesn't believe any of it but she must believe some of it on a sub conscious level. She has difficulty coping and holding a job as well as night terrors. So we do what we can.
I see by some of the messages here that the sect is in the news for pedophilia. I'm surprised. I came to the conclusion that the watchtower sect is made up of some odd and unfriendly people, but pedophilia? It's a shock. Now I am wondering if perhaps a certain soemone is having night terrors because of such activities. This will have to be vigorously pursued by a professional now. I'm glad I found this message board. Pedophile activity would explain a lot, a lot more than just the night terrors. Anyway, thank you for the welcome. -
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Hello. My name is John Walsh
by Mistah MOJO ini am currently domiciled with my girlfriend whose family became jws too late for her to be sucked into the hole, and her younger sister who was sucked into the hole.
i was briefly involved.
for two years i studied but never was baptized.
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Mistah MOJO
I am currently domiciled with my girlfriend whose family became JWS too late for her to be sucked into the hole, and her younger sister who was sucked into the hole. I was briefly involved. For two years I studied but never was baptized. When it began to dawn on the JWS that I wasn't going to be baptized the friendliness dried up and I got the message. We have fun with the JWS who come to our door. I like to tell them I am a warlock and watch them get uncomfortable. My girlfriend likes to tell them she is disfellowshipped even though she isnt. She has even followed them out to the sidewalk yelling at them. Its really funny to see. Anyway, hello.
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Genesis vs new Awake! article
by undercover in4 after that god saw that the light was good, and god brought about a division between the light and the darkness.
and there came to be evening and there came to be morning, a first day.
after that god saw that the light was good, and god brought about a division between the light and the darkness.
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Mistah MOJO
Well, light did come into existence before the stars or anything else at the moment of the Big Bang. So "let there be light" is at least accurate.
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NEW ANTI-PEDOPHILE LAW
by okoakridge inhttp://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/07/20060727-6.html
the president of the u.s. has signed into law the john walsh child protection & safety act which will among other things provide 500 new federal marshals to fight pedophiles and create a new easily accessible sex offenders finder database.
the watchtower society has not cared to divulge the names of offenders among their ranks from the governing body down to the local kingdom halls but now human society in the u.s. is doing an end-run around them.
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Mistah MOJO
WOW! It's about time the government did something GOOD for the nation!!!
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IS JEHOVAH A PERVERT?
by jayhawk1 insometimes i wonder how something made it into the bible in the first place.... genesis 38, the story of judah and his daughter-in-law tamar.
background judah's firstborn son er was bad in jehovah's eyes, so jehovah put him to death.
genesis 38:6. so judah being the good father that he was gave tamar to his second son to have sex with and have children in the name of the fallen er... we pick up reading in genesis 38:9.
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Mistah MOJO
Yes Jehovah is a pervert, and THAT is the "moral lesson" to be learned from this passage.